149€95
I gave this as a present to my father so he could play Flight Simulator X and other aviation simulation games.
Positive feedback: it's much more enjoyable than playing with a keyboard, of course!
A mid-range HOTAS with excellent value for money. Don't expect a metal finish, but the plastic is of good quality. Joystick accuracy is excellent, nothing to say, and can be switched from right to left handed without any problem with the help of modifications included in the box, if necessary.
The throttle responds well, and the accuracy is also good.
However, the technology used for the rail mounted throttle can quickly become a handicap if you have not secured your controls with the screw threads under them.
Be sure to adjust the hardness of the throttle and possibly a can of WD40 if this is not enough!
I bought this HOTAS to play Elite Dangerous. I spent about 300 hours on the game. I like the number of buttons available on the stick and overall I like the ergonomics. Only the throttle lever at the end of the throttle lever has the annoying tendency to do more than I ask it to (one press -> it throws 4). The same thing, the yaw axis of the stick sends micro-vibrations, it's not too sensitive in flight but in straight flight, the people who represent me keep oscillating the stick (same, the ship's vision oscillates).
So it works but it's annoying. I'm reluctant to put the warranty into play, first because it's going to deprive me of playing for a while, then because I'm afraid it's a general defect. I live with it but maybe I'll buy a Saitek when I have the money.
It took me a while to make the post, because it's my first hotas. So I wanted to discover the gameplay with it and then get a constructive idea:
The sensitivity of the joystick seems to be a bit high, when I put my hand down, it already leans to the side of the palm (maybe this is normal).
Concerning the "throttle", I think they should have made it a bit heavier. Indeed when I want to decelerate, I move the whole lever. (with an anti-skid, the trick is played)
I'm very happy with the rest of it, lots of buttons in the right places, very practical.
I highly recommend it.
The first 6 months were pretty good, the joystick was nice and accurate at first. Except that after 6 months, with a little more than 300 hours of use on Elite Dangerous, the RZ axis (rotation on the vertical axis of the stick) started to vary by itself. This results in erratic movements (rolling to the left) while the stick is in the middle position without being touched. I am apparently not the only one to encounter this problem and I therefore invite you to inquire about this point before continuing your purchase. It's a direct return to the after sales service for me.
Be careful virtual pilot friends.
What to expect?
The big bosses of simulation hardware have produced a set of peripherals that are really cheap for the technology on board. 150€, no hesitation.
The joystick was already known. There's no need to boast about its precision, it's already been done by anyone who has used it. It's ambidextrous, so it's already winning over competitors who have forgotten that there are left-handed people (which is not my case). On the other hand, the throttle is not modular, which is impossible if you are looking for ergonomics.
Where it shines is its movement: no notches, true analog. The translation, in addition to being pleasant and realistic, avoids the problems of wear of the dead zone (in fact there is no dead zone, thus no wear).
Ergonomics is top notch, lots of buttons and so on that fall right under your fingers.
Thrustmaster's engineers thought of adding tapped metal inserts (M8, solid) for DIYers who would like to screw their set onto a support, or even two since the two peripherals are independent (BIG POINT). Thus, the stiffness of the joystick becomes a practical advantage as well as a guarantee of solidity.
I'm not worried about the lifespan. Many videos explain how to disassemble and grease the mechanical parts.
In this age of programmed obsolescence and crappy products, it's nice to come across such good stuff, so cheap. I just wish it wasn't an Asian kid assembling it. I'd rather build it myself (it's easier than lego).
Used on Elite Dangerous. Designed for this game by the way, you can tell by the colours. Made by players, for players. Top notch stuff.
I bought this pack to play in Vr in combo with an Acer Mixed Reality.
The least I can say is that I am not disappointed.
The grip is good and comfortable.
I've been using it for a while now and I'm not sure if it's a good idea to use it for a long time.
I recommend it.
Fast delivery to the carrier, correct packaging. Very accurate set, just a bit stiffer than an X52 but a lot of sticks very useful for DCS for example. Good grip, and this accuracy...
Honestly
Its ergonomics, its look and its precision make it an excellent joystick for a very affordable price.
It's a great joystick to use for simulations such as Elite Dangerous and also for flight simulator x plane arma 3 etc.
The joystick is a great choice for simulations such as Elite Dangerous or Flight Simulator x Plane Arma 3 etc. There are many possibilities in terms of key configuration and free thrustmaster software.
Don't hesitate one second for this budget.
After two years, my old H.O.T.A.S (Thrustmaster T.Flight H.O.T.A.S X) broke down.
I play Microsoft Flight Simulator and Elite Dangerous and this H.O.T.A.S is great: it has a very nice look, enough buttons, the throttle has a great distance, the joystick is very precise
and the joystick offers the possibility to be modified for left-handed people (right-handed/left-handed button below the joystick as well as the thumb rest which can be removed and reassembled on the right for left-handed people). Only the joystick not the throttle.
LDLC:
Nothing to say.
The packaging is well secured and the delivery time is satisfactory.
T16.000 Hotas ( 2M ) Joystick + Gas
The best compromise on the market.
The joystick may lack a trigger on the little finger.
And probably 2 more thumb buttons.
The 12 buttons on the baseplate are sufficient.
The throttle is really great!
Both comfortable and practical.
Most of the emergency controls in combat will be placed on it, and very easily accessible.
The "Rail" system is a nice innovation.
A small reproach, just to say...
The button numbers are the same on the throttle and on the joystick. ( headache during the personal configuration )
We would have liked an extension of the numbers on one of the 2 peripherals, or a letter in front of the numbers for better identification.
I received the thrusmaster t.16000 m fcs Hotas within 48 hours, Just the best for Elite Dangerous, Made and designed with the game developers Nothing to say.
I recommend +++++++++++++
